1 00:00:07,060 --> 00:00:10,492 Welcome to NDR Aktuell. It is 9:45pm. 2 00:00:10,592 --> 00:00:14,310 Depending on where you live you could get the impression... 3 00:00:14,410 --> 00:00:18,079 ...the controversy around the cult of Scientology has calmed down over here. 4 00:00:18,179 --> 00:00:19,704 But - far from it! 5 00:00:19,804 --> 00:00:21,601 Meanwhile here in the north,... 6 00:00:21,701 --> 00:00:23,645 ...increasingly in the rural parts,... 7 00:00:23,745 --> 00:00:25,885 the self-proclaimed church attempts... 8 00:00:25,985 --> 00:00:27,857 ...to draw unwitting people into their clutches. 9 00:00:27,957 --> 00:00:30,492 According to the Office for the Protection of the Constitution,... 10 00:00:30,592 --> 00:00:32,906 ...Scientology is still very active. 11 00:00:33,006 --> 00:00:40,517 That Germany hosted the highest ranking defector to date for the first time is all the more significant. 12 00:00:40,617 --> 00:00:46,182 Hamburg's sect commissioner Ursula Caberta is thrilled accordingly. 13 00:00:46,282 --> 00:00:50,099 Years ago I dreamt of him knocking at the door here. 14 00:00:50,199 --> 00:00:54,828 And that we can sit together to develop a strategy... 15 00:00:54,928 --> 00:00:59,631 ...on how to damage the Scientology Organisation even more... 16 00:00:59,731 --> 00:01:05,246 ...how can you stop what's happening inside Scientology, no matter where. 17 00:01:05,346 --> 00:01:11,380 Mark Rathbun was Scientology's #2 in the USA... 18 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,779 ...he managed to quit in 2004. 19 00:01:14,879 --> 00:01:19,138 Ever since, says Rathbun, he's being followed by private investigators... 20 00:01:19,238 --> 00:01:22,833 ...and slandered and harrassed by detractors. 21 00:01:22,981 --> 00:01:26,454 Cults fear nothing more than breakaways. 22 00:01:26,554 --> 00:01:29,262 They follow each step of the defectors,... 23 00:01:29,362 --> 00:01:31,626 they won't stop at slander even. 24 00:01:31,726 --> 00:01:36,207 Mr. Rathbun is demonstrably a violent man,... 25 00:01:36,307 --> 00:01:39,200 ...he committed perjury and instigated others to commit perjury... 26 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:41,306 ...and is a chronic liar. 27 00:01:41,406 --> 00:01:45,666 The alleged "chronic liar" came to Hamburg to tell the truth. 28 00:01:45,766 --> 00:01:48,621 The truth about a cult as he witnessed it,... 29 00:01:48,721 --> 00:01:50,801 ... for 27 years. 30 00:01:50,901 --> 00:01:53,018 Seven years ago he quit... 31 00:01:53,118 --> 00:01:57,673 ...because questioning members were abused in front of his eyes by a Scientology leader. 32 00:02:00,112 --> 00:02:02,365 He wanted to make an example. 33 00:02:02,465 --> 00:02:06,319 He struck a critical member, with fists into his face... 34 00:02:06,419 --> 00:02:07,419 ...and kicked him to the floor. 35 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:10,013 When he was on the floor already he kept kicking. 36 00:02:10,113 --> 00:02:14,594 That's when I understood I have to do something I might regret. 37 00:02:14,694 --> 00:02:17,587 But I must leave the organisation. 38 00:02:21,393 --> 00:02:24,422 (Is it true that you're with Scientology now?) 39 00:02:24,522 --> 00:02:28,560 Last year an ARD movie about a Scientology defector made the claim... 40 00:02:28,660 --> 00:02:31,516 ...that members lose their money to the cult. 41 00:02:31,616 --> 00:02:35,395 "I got a call from our bank which is also the bank of your wife." 42 00:02:35,495 --> 00:02:39,459 "She obviously tried to take out a loan of 60.000 D-Mark." 43 00:02:40,309 --> 00:02:43,449 Mark Rathbun confirms the allegation. 44 00:02:47,107 --> 00:02:49,693 People are forced to donate money. 45 00:02:49,793 --> 00:02:51,762 They must even sell their houses. 46 00:02:51,862 --> 00:02:54,459 They spend all their money on this church. 47 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,743 The Scientology influence has long been reaching... 48 00:02:59,843 --> 00:03:02,920 into highest political circles in America, according to Rathbun. 49 00:03:03,020 --> 00:03:06,208 It must not come to that in Germany, he said,... 50 00:03:06,308 --> 00:03:10,162 ...this being another reason for him to come to Hamburg.